Hey there Legal Rebels! 👋 I'm excited to share with you the 19th episode of the 2025 season of the LawDroid Manifesto podcast, where I will be continuing to interview key legal innovators to learn how they do what they do. I think you're going to enjoy this one!
If you want to understand how to practically implement AI tools in your legal practice and see legal technology through the eyes of childlike wonder rather than fear, you need to listen to this episode. Kyle is at the forefront of legal AI implementation and brings a uniquely practical yet playful perspective to this rapidly evolving field.
And, just recently, Kyle started a new position as Legal Product Lead at Eudia, a legal tech startup. Watch this episode to learn how he did it.
Transforming Legal Practice Through Practical AI Implementation
Join me as I interview Kyle Bahr, Legal Product Lead at Eudia and former Senior Business Attorney at Luther Lennard.
In this insightful podcast episode, Kyle shares his journey from journalism to law, and his discovery of AI's transformative potential for legal practice. He dives deep into how he's implementing AI tools into daily workflows at his boutique law firm that represents franchisees nationwide. Kyle also demonstrates how he's using these tools to deliver high-quality and efficient legal services to small business owners who might not otherwise have access to advanced legal resources.
His stories and insights underscore his practical approach to legal technology adoption, including a recent mind-blowing experience with Google Gemini 2.5 Pro that spotted inconsistencies in a 200-page legal document in just 90 seconds. This episode is a must-watch for anyone curious about the intersection of legal practice and AI, offering valuable perspectives on practical implementation approaches that work today.
The Skinny
Kyle Bahr, Legal Product Lead at Eudia and former Senior Business Attorney at Luther Lennard, shares his journey from small-town beginnings through journalism to law, and now to the forefront of legal AI implementation. With a uniquely practical approach, Kyle demonstrates how he's integrating AI tools into daily legal workflows to better serve franchisee clients who may have limited resources. Throughout the conversation, Kyle emphasizes the exponential advancement of AI capabilities, highlighted by his recent experience with Google Gemini 2.5 Pro, which identified inconsistencies in a 200-page legal document in just 90 seconds, something he believes most human lawyers would miss. Kyle's enthusiasm stems from his childhood love of Star Wars and technology, seeing today's AI tools as the R2D2s and C3POs of the legal world that can help lawyers do more for their clients with less.
Key Takeaways:
Kyle's practical approach to AI comes from directly testing tools in his daily legal practice, particularly in his boutique law firm representing franchisees
His childhood exposure to early computers and Star Wars fostered his enthusiasm for technology that continues to fuel his exploration of legal AI today
His career path through journalism taught him to identify compelling narratives and see the big picture, skills that help him contextualize legal AI's potential
Kyle's unique perspective combines in-house counsel experience, legal operations expertise, and hands-on AI implementation
The recent Google Gemini 2.5 Pro demonstration showed AI detecting inconsistencies in a 200-page legal document in 90 seconds, highlighting how advanced these tools have become
Legal AI technology is advancing exponentially while lawyer adoption has been much slower, creating both a gap and an opportunity
Kyle emphasizes the importance of bringing legal tech into practice because legal work is nuanced and complex, but the technology is increasingly capable of handling it
Work-life balance is better conceptualized as "the juggle," prioritizing which balls to keep in the air at any given time
Notable Quotes:
"I come at the technology from a practical perspective first. When I discovered AI, when ChatGPT first came out, December of 2022, I was in-house counsel at that time. And I was really focused on how can I implement this technology into my practice and then more broadly into the practice of my legal department." - Kyle Bahr (03:04-03:23)
"The concept of GPT, not chat GPT, generative pre-trained transformer, but general purpose technology. And AI, generative AI now is a general purpose technology." - Kyle Bahr (06:22-06:36)
"I do not know if any human lawyer, unless it was their job to check for that inconsistency, just given the amount of words between those two sections, I don't know if any human lawyer would have caught it." - Kyle Bahr (45:15-45:27)
"Folks, I think, still think of early days ChatGPT as what AI is now. They're thinking of the tool that Steven Schwartz used to become the ChatGPT lawyer, the Avianca case. And the technology, AI has advanced so much in that short amount of time." - Kyle Bahr (45:52-46:03)
"The amount of growth that the technology has had in the past year and a half is literally exponential. And unfortunately, I think our profession has been, I wouldn't say linear or flat. We've had some growth, but we're not caught up to the technology." - Kyle Bahr (46:21-46:38)
"If somebody used, if Stephen Schwartz had used, had the benefit of being able to use deep research technology, then he might not have been caught up in hallucinated cases." - Kyle Bahr (46:57-47:09)
"Don't think of it as work-life balance. Think of it as the juggle. You just have these balls that you need to be able to all keep up." - Kyle Bahr (49:14-49:23)
"Now with this technology, I feel like we have our own R2D2s and C3POs that we can put to different tasks for ourselves. And so all of this is like what I'm able to do on LinkedIn, how I'm able to contribute and my passion and excitement for legal AI itself is all driven by that inner child inside of me who's super stoked about this technology." - Kyle Bahr (52:08-52:31)
Clips
AI Outpacing Human Review
Gemini 2.5s Document Analysis
Kyle’s Journey Into Legal AI Analysis
Practical Application of AI in Legal Practice
Kyle's journey reflects the evolution of legal technology itself—from paper-based practice at the beginning of his career to AI-powered document review that can identify inconsistencies in complex legal documents in seconds. His perspective combines the analytical rigor of a trained litigator with the childlike wonder of someone who grew up loving Star Wars and early computers. This unique combination allows him to approach legal AI practically while maintaining the enthusiasm needed to drive adoption.
What stands out most is Kyle's emphasis on using these tools to deliver better outcomes for clients who might otherwise lack access to sophisticated legal resources. By implementing AI in a boutique firm focused on franchisees, he's demonstrating how these technologies can democratize legal services beyond just the largest firms and corporate clients.
Closing Thoughts
As a legal tech entrepreneur who's been in this space for years, I find Kyle's perspective particularly refreshing. He represents what I believe is the next wave of legal innovators, practitioners who are implementing AI tools daily in their practice rather than just theorizing about them. His practical approach, combined with genuine enthusiasm, shows how today's lawyers can embrace technology without fear.
What excites me most is seeing how quickly these tools are advancing. The Gemini 2.5 Pro example Kyle shared, spotting inconsistencies in a 200-page document in 90 seconds (like finding needles in a haystack), demonstrates we're entering a new era where AI doesn't just automate simple tasks but enhances lawyers' analytical capabilities in ways previously unimaginable.
For our Legal Rebels community, Kyle's story serves as both inspiration and a practical roadmap. You don't need to be a technology expert to implement these tools successfully. You just need the willingness to experiment, find practical applications for your specific practice, and maintain that sense of wonder that makes technology exploration genuinely enjoyable.
As legal AI continues to advance exponentially, those who approach it with Kyle's combination of practical implementation and childlike enthusiasm will be best positioned to thrive. The future of legal practice belongs to those who can juggle both the technical and human aspects of the profession, keeping all those balls in the air while focusing on what matters most: delivering better outcomes for clients.
I wish Kyle the best in his new position as Legal Product Lead at Eudia; they are fortunate to have him on board!
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